Rutland is An Up and Coming Vermont City

For too long Burlington has taken all the credit in Vermont as the city to be in.

Rutland is cheaper, closer to the ski resorts, has the Paramount, has the growing Castleton University nearby,  is just a train ride away from NYC and is the up and coming Vermont city.

Look at real estate for the last several years, ever since the crash in 2008, real estate prices have been dropping in Rutland.  They have now leveled off and there has never been a better time to buy a home: cheap prices, a housing market that is poised to climb, a city on the mend…

Drugs: Rutland got a bad reputation as a place afflicted by drugs thanks in part to a New York Times article but the trend for the last three years has been recovery:

Project Vision, a collaborative between law enforcement and citizens has ballooned into a modern day movement to rid the city streets of drugs and aid in the recovery of addicts. And it’s working.

Soon Vermont Gossip will report on a project developed by former addicts to help recovery by lowering costs of treatment and doing what Alcoholics Anonymous so famously and effectively did over 80 years ago: one former addict working with another.

Rutland has a close proximity to three lakes two ski resorts and mountain bike escapes, the Paramount Theater, and it has its own train to the walking-friendly New York City. It also boasts more than a few successful restaurants, and soon over 40 Castleton University students will be living in the city.

It is precisely now, when prices in other areas of the got-to-get-settled-into state are so high that it makes sense to move to the tight knit community of Rutland, where prices are cheap and the small city, the second largest in Vermont, is in the middle of a revival.

Almost no where in America has been preserved the lack of traffic lights and commuter congestion like Vermont. To travel from downtown Rutland to Crystal Beach on Lake Bomoseen, 12-15 miles west, takes roughly 20 minutes–not in bumper to bumper traffic but–in windows rolled down, hand in the breeze joy-riding out of the small city.

The Rutland Herald is an excellent local paper that has been around longer than some states have been part of the US and that history is in full display in Rutland.

Rutland also has a thriving local foods scene as Vermont moves towards food and energy independence, with summer and winter farmer’s markets. Summer outdoor concerts can also be taken in and the city is less than two hours drive from Saratoga Performing Arts Center where bands like Dave Matthews, Phish and Mumford and Sons play.  It is less than an hour drive from the great Lake George and Great Escape amusement park.

There has never been a better time to find a realtor and start looking for a place to call your own in Rutland. Price and location say it all. You can find cheap home prices in a walking friendly city with easy drive and train get aways to all locations nearby.  Boston and the Red Sox are less than four hours away.  So is Vacationland Maine. All these places are better to visit than to actually live and almost no place in America has as much climate and food security as Vermont.

GOP Governor Candidate Visits Fair Haven


Castleton and Fair Haven state representatives Bill Canfield and Bob Helm gathered on the front porch of the palatial Marble Mansion Inn chatting with a couple of other people Saturday. It was a hot, sunny, lazy June afternoon and the occasion was a campaign visit from republican lieutenant governor and gubernatorial candidate Phil Scott.

Scott arrived 15 minutes later, shaking hands as he entered the mansion, which was air conditioned. Attendees milled around and chatted for a while. Scott was able to chat with everyone in attendance. Lunch was served. About 30 people were in attendance including several Rutland County representatives.

Dem Gov Candidate Matt Dunne Responds to EPA Announcement Concerning Lake Champlain

June 17, 2016 — Today the EPA announced new phosphorous Total Daily Maximum Loads (TDML)s for the twelve segments of Lake Champlain. The TDMLs were developed in collaboration with the Vermont Agency of Natural Resources, Department of Environmental Conservation and the Vermont Agency of Agriculture, Food and Markets.

Calling the announcement by the EPA a “wake up call” Democratic Candidate for Governor Matt Dunne responded to the announcement with the following statement:

“Vermont is traditionally a leader on the environment, but we’ve fallen behind when it comes to ensuring the long-term health of Lake Champlain. Together, we can help Vermont regain its leadership role, but it will require a new approach and greatly increased state funding. Our state’s water is a shared responsibility. We must address the infrastructure needs together, including working with developers and our farmers to invest in new technology that reduces phosphorus runoff.
“As Governor, I will make sure we collaborate with other states in the watershed and increase state funding for this critical effort. To truly protect our lake, we should view the guidelines released today as the very minimum for what must be done. We are going to need to do this and a lot more, and do it expeditiously if we intend to reverse the damage already wreaked by nutrient pollution in a number of our communities.”

Matt Dunne Fulfills Unprecedented Transparency Pledge and Voluntarily Releases Campaign Finance Disclosure

Montpelier, VT: – Matt Dunne, Democratic candidate for governor, today voluntarily released a campaign finance disclosure to the public at an event outside the Secretary of State’s office, making good on a pledge to give voters and the media open access to all campaign fundraising and spending activity. Matt believes the public has every right to see this information before early voting begins on June 25th.
“Vermonters deserve to know how a candidate’s campaign is funded,” said Matt Dunne, Democratic candidate for governor. “I’m proud to be running a people-powered campaign, focused on restoring the public’s trust in government. That starts by rejecting corporate campaign contributions and opening our books so that voters can make an informed decision when they go to the polls on August 9th.”
Today’s campaign finance disclosure reported a total of $717,855.53 raised from 2,626 contributors, the vast majority of which, 1,849, gave small dollar donations of $100 or less. The campaign has spent $394,523.34 to date. This leaves the campaign with $323,332.19 on-hand.

Last month, Matt announced his comprehensive plan for ethics reform, challenging all candidates in the race to join him in rejecting corporate campaign contributions and releasing voluntary monthly campaign finance disclosures. While the other Democrats in the race followed Matt’s lead, returning corporate money when it had been received and refusing to accept future corporate contributions, they have not pledged to provide the public with vital information about how their campaigns are funded outside of the state’s required deadlines.
“Eliminating corporate campaign contributions is just the first step toward a truly transparent process. I will continue to disclose my campaign’s finances every month, because voters deserve to know what kind of campaign we are running,” said Dunne.
To learn more about Matt’s comprehensive ethics and transparency plans, please visit:

Matt Dunne Releases First TV Ad: “What Bernie Started”

White River Junction, VT – Today, Matt Dunne, one of the democratic candidates for Governor, started airing his first tv ad, “What Bernie Started,” highlighting his plans for making Bernie Sanders’ vision a reality in Vermont. Matt was the first candidate to endorse Bernie for president, and he has a progressive plan for bringing change to Montpelier — starting by running a people-powered campaign that rejects corporate contributions.
“Voters have an important choice before them during this primary,” said Matt Dunne, Democratic candidate for governor. “My campaign is rejecting corporate contributions because big money has corrupted our political process for far too long. It’s time to restore trust in government, and we’re excited to take that message directly to the voters.”
The 30-second ad is airing statewide as part of a robust six-figure buy, and is the first of a series of ads that will run through the August 9th primary.
To view “What Bernie Started,” please visit:

Gubernatorial Candidate Sue Minter Attends Project VISION Meeting Thursday in Rutland

Democratic gubernatorial candidate Sue Minter joined Project VISION’s monthly meeting Thursday in Rutland calling the initiative, a collaboration between law enforcement and community leaders, a possible model for communities around the state.

The meeting ran for an hour and a half. It was started with an introduction by Joe Kraus, the executive director for Project VISION. Various first time attendees introduced themselves, including Minter. The meeting had a smaller attendance than it did two months ago, possibly because of the summer vacations that people have.

Minter thanked the attendees for their work and praised them for their efforts. She participated in one of the break-out groups on substance abuse, a considerable problem for Rutland, and more broadly Vermont, which is coping with an opioid and heroin crisis.

The meeting addressed the refugee resettlement process. Said Kraus, “Most of the heavy lifting (in resettling refugees) will be done by people in this community: private citizens private organizations. As you’re probably aware there’s a group called Rutland Welcomes that has been formed to spearhead this effort, and I’m very pleased that Pat Hunter and some others will be here now to talk briefly about the organization, about what they’re doing, how they’re doing it, and how we can be of assistance.”

Hunter and two other ladies from Rutland Welcomes took the stage and began speaking about the growth of the movement to welcome refugees in Rutland. She said they launched a Facebook Page called Rutland welcomes and within a number of weeks over a thousand people had liked the page. “We thought we might have 35 people to start out with,” Hunter said, “and 175 people showed up one month ago. And there’s more people than that who have since been involved.”

Hunter held up a lawn sign that had a heart with an arrow through it and said that people will soon start seeing these on lawns, that it was the logo for the movement. She ticked off some of the initiatives that people were pursuing for the refugees: a welcome wagon, teaching and tutoring, office support, clerical work, transportation, employment assistance. She stressed that the group was helping not only refugees but also people who are native Rutlanders, and that the community was coming together in a spirit of love.

Rutland Man Supports Sending Special Units in After Groups Destroying Environment


David Shappy, 49, has lived in Vermont all his life.

Vermont Gossip: “Do you live in Rutland?”
Mr. Shappy: “Yes.”
Vermont Gossip: “Do you think the community of Rutland is strong?”
Mr. Shappy: “No, because the economy isn’t that strong, not enough local businesses, a lot of unemployment.”
Vermont Gossip: “Is there a central place or location to hang out in your community?”
Mr. Shappy: “Well, I’m pretty much a homebody, so…there seems to be a lot of bars still, it’s always been a bar town. So I think a lot of the youth might congregate in the bars, but I’d like to see more restaurants and clothing stores. Things open downtown like it used to be. I’d like to see a more vibrant downtown.”
Vermont Gossip: “Would you like to see community dances, and if they were held would you attend?”
Mr. Shappy: “I don’t know if I’d attend, I’d like to see it for the community. I’d like to see more rec sponsored things for the youth, like there used to be in the sixties and the seventies. The Rutland Rec Department were more active with the youth in the community.”
Vermont Gossip: “Do you believe there are health benefits to going out and having public social engagements?”
Mr. Shappy: “Yeah, I think there’s always a benefit to having people interact with people. When I was growing up I knew all of my neighbors on my street on a first name basis, and now I just know my next door neighbors. I don’t know many of my neighbors anymore and I think that’s the same in most neighborhoods. I think neighbors have lost track with each other in this day and age.”
Vermont Gossip: “Would you like to see them get back in touch with being good neighbors?”
Mr. Shappy: “Yeah, I think that would help, yeah.”
Vermont Gossip: “What can be done to deal with the heroin and opioid crisis in Vermont?”
Mr. Shappy: “I think more accessibility to treatment. I think there’s some treatment and some doctors, and there’s a clinic and there’s Serenity House and Grace House and places like that, but a lot of times I think that you’ve gotta jump through hoops to get into some of these places. You gotta wait seven months to see a doctor or you gotta go through all these programs to get into a treatment facility or to get into certain treatment houses you have to go to an inpatient treatment facility. I think you have to have easier access to health, without so many technicalities getting in the way because I think people when they have an addiction problem, if it comes down to having a hard road to recovery and having an easy road to getting access to drugs, they’re going to take the easy access to getting drugs rather than the hard road to recovery.”
Vermont Gossip: “Do you support pairing Vermont youth with law enforcement in an effort to combat drug abuse?”
Mr. Shappy: “No, because I think the Rutland police are a poor example of law enforcement in general. I think especially the younger officers on the force. I don’t think they do a good job, some of the older officers I think do a fine job. The younger officers I think are a poor representation of the force. So I wouldn’t want the community intermingling with them because I don’t think they represent Rutland.”
Vermont Gossip: “After a terrorist attack or mass shooting the media often makes the killers famous with pictures and names. Do you think this could inspire others to carry out copycat attacks because they want to become famous?”
Mr. Shappy: “Well I think you gotta balance that with the public’s right to know, you know access to information. So, sure there might be somebody out there domestically or internationally who wants to be the next Osama Bin Ladin, but there’s also the public’s need to know that there is an Osama Bin Ladin out there or someone like him. We have a right to know about these people.”
Vermont Gossip: “Do you think that the older generations are supportive enough of the younger generations?”
Mr. Shappy: “Well there’s always going to be a divide. It was that way when I was younger. The older generation just said we didn’t get it, we said the older generation didn’t get it. So you’re going to have that in any generation. So I don’t think it’s any different with this generation now than the older generations. It might seem that way because of the social media, it just seems that way because it’s more out there. It’s seen more out there because of the social media. There’s a greater divide, but I think there’s always been one.”
Vermont Gossip: “What do you do for work?”
Mr. Shappy: “I’m a home care provider for my girlfriend. She has kidney failure, so I take care of her.”
Vermont Gossip: “Do you like living in Vermont?”
Mr. Shappy: “Yeah, I wouldn’t live anywhere else.”
Vermont Gossip: “Do you believe that elementary school students should be taught how to grow food in a hands-on environment?”
Mr. Shappy: “Well I think elementary school students should go to one school from Kindergarten to sixth grade. How they school them there, I’m not sure, but I don’t like this idea of having elementary school students go to three or four schools. That’s another pet peeve I have. If they live in one district, they should go to one school. Kindergarten to sixth grade, just the way it’s always been, instead of this idea you go to Kindergarten to second grade and then you switch schools and you go to third grade at some other school and you switch schools, I think to me that is ridiculous, and I think that’s why there’s a problem with education today is because the way the school system is in Rutland.”
Vermont Gossip: “Do you wish you knew more about how your ancestors spent summers and winters in Vermont or where ever they’re from?”
Mr. Shappy: “I never really thought of it. No.”
Vermont Gossip: “Do you believe high school students who have an interest in it should learn how to make furniture from sustainably harvested Vermont wood?”
Mr. Shappy: “Like a shop class? Sure.”
Vermont Gossip: “Would you like to see charging stations for electric cars in parking lots and on city streets?”
Mr. Shappy: “Yeah, you see a lot of hybrid cars out there so I think they should have that option.”
Vermont Gossip: “Researchers at the University of Iowa found that driving while under the influence of marijuana causes no impairment. Do you support Montpelier’s aggressive effort to crack down on stoned drivers if they legalize weed?”
Mr. Shappy: “Well I don’t have any problem with anybody smoking weed, but I don’t think it’s wise to smoke like three blunts and then start driving through town. That doesn’t make any sense to me. Why would you want to get high and then get in a car and go cruising? That doesn’t make too much sense to me.”
Vermont Gossip: “Do you believe that Hollywood and advertising corrupts the minds of our kids with all the sex and violence and unrealistic versions of life that is found in the media?”
Mr. Shappy: “I think it can to some degree. I think if you look at Hollywood and some of the portrayals of some of the actors and actresses and lifestyles and you look at it as being realistic, if you look at that as though it’s reality I think it can give you a warped sense of reality. If you don’t look at it as if that’s just acting, that’s not real. If you don’t look at it for the entertainment value I think you can warp your mind. If you understand that it’s just entertainment I think you can be alright from it.”
Vermont Gossip: “Do you believe that internet pornography is making sexual delinquents out of Vermont teens?”
Mr. Shappy: “No. I mean when I was that age we used to look at our parent’s Playboys and Penthouses and I turned out alright.”
Vermont Gossip: “Would you support using the military to threaten people who were killing off elephants and orangutans and people who threaten our survival?’
Mr. Shappy: “Yeah, I could see sending in groups like that into countries that are harvesting elephant tusks and rhino tusks. Sending in like a special forces unit and telling them to knock off the poaching. I have no objection to something like that. Scare the hell out of them, put the fear of God in them.”
Vermont Gossip: “Seven in ten Americans take prescription medicine and children in America are twenty-five times more likely than children in the UK to be prescribed medication for ADHD. Do you believe that doctors are over prescribing medications, or do you think that these medications are really improving out lives?”
Mr. Shappy: “No, they’re over prescribing. I don’t blame the children or the doctors, I blame the parents because they want an easy out, so they want their kids medicated and I think it’s a different culture over in Europe. I think they take a more hands-on approach with children, or if they don’t then they find a nanny or a house sitter or someone like that who can substitute for them. So even if they’re not the best of parents over there, they at least find someone who will take care of their children, not a medication. I think in this country we just say ‘Johnny’s a little hyper give him some Ritalin’. I think that’s been going on, it’s not just recently. This has been going on since the early seventies that kids have been medicated. When I was in Kindergarten we had kids that were on Ritalin. So it’s not a new problem, it’s been going on for generations now, and like I said, I blame the parents, not the kids and not the doctors. It’s the parents who go to these doctors and say ‘I can’t handle my kids, he needs to be on something.’ and the doctors are put between a rock and a hard place.”
Vermont Gossip: “Do you believe our instincts are as complex as other animals?”
Mr. Shappy: “Yeah.”
Vermont Gossip: “Do you believe that emotions are instincts that were selected by nature for survival?”
Mr. Shappy: “Yeah, I believe that.”
Vermont Gossip: “Do you believe that humans will survive as a species for the next million years?”
Mr. Shappy: “No.”
Vermont Gossip: “Does that bother you?”
Mr. Shappy: “No. I think you know, we’ll run our course. Maybe another advanced species will come and take our place. I think the earth will still be here. I think there will be some advanced species instead of us, or maybe some advanced species of human. It might look nothing like us in a couple hundred thousand years, to the point where we couldn’t call them humans. We’d have to call them something else.”
Vermont Gossip: “Do you think that there are human leaders who don’t care about whether the world ends in their children’s lifetime, or the next generations lifetime?”
Mr. Shappy: “Maybe. It’s hard to really get inside someone’s head. It’s hard to say, I would hope not.”
Vermont Gossip: “Do you ever just sit back and think about all the sacrifices your forefathers made to get us to this point?”
Mr. Shappy: “Yeah, and I think about how they messed things up to get us to where we are too. You can’t think of the good without the bad.”

Crystal Beach In Bomoseen Opens with Credit Card Reader

I showed up at Crystal Beach this morning before the booth even opened on its opening weekend with my dog TJ. Marsha was there setting up. She has worked at the beach for many years and this will be her last, she says.

I had to wait a little bit while they set up the new card reader. Formerly they only accepted cash. For security sake they will not be accepting cash anymore. The town ran an electric line from the building at Crystal Beach to the booth that greets cars as they pull in a couple of months ago.

Now all transactions will be check or charge. Marsha finally got the machine up and running and ran my card. I was the second customer of the day. I got a season pass for myself and one for my fiancee. The weather could not have been nicer for a day at the beach. It is Memorial Day Weekend. Hallelujah.

The View From the Hill

Passing the Buck

by Ron Powers

Ron Powers is a Pulitzer Prize-winning and best-selling author who lives in Castleton, Vermont. His latest book, “No One Cares About Crazy People” about the dire state of mental health care in America and the loss of his talented guitar-playing son to the disease comes out in 2017. Here is his column:  

April 27 was a significant day in Vermont municipal governance. In Vermont governance. In governance. April 27 was a day on which The Buck stopped.

You remember The Buck. It’s that fabled tainted marker that is always bouncing from place to place in the world of politics because nobody wants to hold onto it. President Harry Truman famously snatched The Buck in 1945 and bolted it to his desk via a plaque that read: THE BUCK STOPS HERE. Since then, many pols have vowed that they were Buckstoppers too, just like Harry. Precious few of them managed to convince anyone.

And then on an early morning two Wednesdays ago, Chris Louras, the Mayor of Rutland, showed how easy—and how difficult—it was. Louras didn’t call his action Buckstopping; he didn’t call it anything. He just performed the act, with stunning simplicity and unapologetic courage that deserves more recognition around the United States than it will probably receive.

On that day Mayor Louras announced to an incredulous Rutland Board of Aldermen that he had negotiated a plan, in secret, with officials of the Department of Homeland Security and the State Department to commence, in October, the resettlement of 100 refugees from the blazing Hell-scape that is Syria into the Rutland community.

The Mayor did not resort to any elaborate, self-justifying rhetoric to try and fend off the inevitable uproar. He simply told the Board, “I do apologize if you feel blindsided. But if I had to do it over again I’d make the same decision.”

(He had chosen secrecy, Louras explained, to forestall the real risk of a public firestorm that would doom the initiative before it could be agreed upon. In the event, no such firestorm erupted, to the great credit of most Rutlanders, although ominous little brush-fires made their inevitable appearance.)

When is the last time you heard a politician to the left of Donald Trump speak that way? Hell, when is the last time you heard Donald Trump speak that way?

I’ve never met Chris Louras and I would never pretend to speak for him. I don’t need to. His course of action and his choice of words explain themselves.

Clearly, he was prepared for the blowback, and knew exactly which way it would blow. To conduct the negotiations in secret was to enter an ethically gray area. And it would hand his nativist-leaning opponents a convenient target for attacking the Syrian refugee idea without attacking the Syrian refugee idea.

Secrecy! The dissenting Aldermen (and many constituents) howled. They were shocked! Shocked! Secrecy is undemocratic! It is not the American way!

There’s truth in that. (Though the secret meetings were hardly in violation of a law.) Suspending habeas corpus is un-democratic and un-American too, and arguably un-Constitutional, and maybe Abraham Lincoln should not have done it in 1861, and freed a few hundred imprisoned Confederate sympathizers to run loose in undefended Washington. And suspending the rights and freedom of unconvicted prisoners at Guantanamo is likely un-Constitutional as well.

No easy sarcasm intended here. The point is that in matters of towering complexity and consequences for human life and death, rarely is any problem addressed without creating the seeds of an even worse problem. In Louras’s case, as mentioned, he was trying to avoid the risk of triggering the kind of pre-emptive rancor that has scarred American debate and posed dangers to innocent, defenseless people caught up in the evils of the world. Maybe he was wrong.

But let’s try to judge that question not by arguing from analogy, but by listening to some voices from either side of the issue—if a crisis of humanity on this scale can even be described with as banal a word as “issue.”

From Hilmi M. Zawati, chair of the International Center for Legal Accountability and Justice:

            “Since its eruption in March 2011, the Syrian peoples’ movement for freedom and democracy has . . . shifted from a peaceful uprising to a civil war. Several reports also indicate that the situation for Syrian women and girls is frightening. . . They have been assaulted in detention and interrogation centers; during home raids and searches, often in front of members of their families; and in public at checkpoints and roadblocks. They were, and still are, in a living death behind bars or in refugee camps inside and outside Syria, and continue to be vulnerable to different kinds of exploitation by both friends and foes . . .”

From Rep. Butch Shaw, R-Pittsford, to Mayor Louras: “We got our legs kicked out from underneath us. . . We need a measure of trust from you and from the city and from the county, and if we don’t get that, it’s damaging to us here in this building.”

From the journalist Sarah Dadouch, reporting from the village of Aleppo, which has been nearly leveled and incinerated by Syrian government air strikes: “Every day, people’s houses, schools, mosques and markets get bombed. Civil defense members try and save them. Then civil defense members get bombed. Hospital staff members try and save them. Then hospitals get bombed. So people leave for refugee camps. Their camps get bombed.”

From Vermont Digger, April 27, 2016: “Sen. Peg Flory, R-Rutland, and others questioned whether the refugees would take advantage of already overburdened assistance programs like Medicaid or heating bill aid offered through the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program.”

From a CNN report of April 30, 2016: “An airstrike on a pediatric hospital in Syria has killed 50 people . . . at least six of the dead were hospital staff: two doctors, two nurses, one guard and one maintenance worker . . . the United Nations warns that the situation in Aleppo has become “catastrophic” in recent days . . .

Perhaps the last words should belong to Mayor Louras:

“There’s a clear understanding that this is not going to be easy. This could well be downright hard. However, when given a choice between an easier wrong and a harder right, always choose the harder rights, and this is the right thing to do for the community.”

Perhaps to some, that phrase, “a choice between an easier wrong and a harder right,” may sound a little precious and squishy-lib. Louras adapted it from the Cadet Prayer as written for the United States Military Academy at West Point in 1958.

That’s one of the places where the buck always stops.

Rutland Man Longs for Social Club


Ray Lewis Jr., 32, lives in Rutland. He has lived in Vermont for four years.
Vermont Gossip: “Do you think the community of Rutland is strong?”
Mr. Lewis: “In its own way yes. In some ways they could work on it. I see a lot of good people out there helping each other out every time I go to the super market and one time I didn’t have that much money for my groceries, a person in back helped me with my groceries. You know they do got good people out here, but you got some messed up a-holes you know? I don’t want to curse for that part. You got some bad people that don’t listen. People gotta understand that you gotta have patience. You know it’s all about the patience and praying to the lord above. You know?”
Vermont Gossip: “Is there a central place, location to hang out in Rutland that you know of?”
Mr. Lewis: “I do not know for young people. My bud told me a good place is the Boys and Girls Club, but I don’t know for us adults they’ve got bars, but what if you’re not a drinker? Where’s a good place for us?”
Vermont Gossip: “Would you like to see a central place to hang out in Rutland?”
Mr. Lewis: “Yeah.”
Vermont Gossip: “If there were community dances held would you attend? Would you support that?”
Mr. Lewis: “I would support it with my finacee, yeah.”
Vermont Gossip: “What do you think could be done to make the community stronger?”
Mr. Lewis: “Everybody just look out for each other. Brotherly love like Philadelphia. That’s what people form Philadelphia do, the brotherly love, the unconditional love for each other. That’s what we need up here.”
Vermont Gossip: “Do you think the older generations are supportive enough of the younger generations?”
Mr. Lewis: “Sometimes. Sometimes they just worry about themselves.”
Vermont Gossip: “What’s newsworthy and relevant in your life?”
Mr. Lewis: “I’m moving again. My parents is moving again. I’d say I like it a little bit here. They just need to have some place, somewhere to go to have fun other than stay home constantly and not get out nowhere.”
Vermont Gossip: “So where are you moving to?”
Mr. Lewis: “Um she won’t tell me yet. It’s a surprise.”
Vermont Gossip: “You’re moving with them? So you’re leaving Vermont?”
Mr. Lewis: “Yeah, but I’ll come back by myself or with my fiancee to live out my life here.”
Vermont Gossip: “Do you think you’ll live out the rest of your life here in Vermont?”
Mr. Lewis: “If I can, if I can’t then I’ll stay where I’m at, but I want to come back. It’s just that they have to be something poppy you know? Like a club, not like a club-club where you drink, like a club to socialize with people and play games and you know, how can I say it? You know with different stuff to do like a treasure hunt type or stuff like different games like that.”
Vermont Gossip: “Do you like living in Vermont?”
Mr. Lewis: “Yeah I really do.”